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Path: bloom-beacon.mit.edu!hookup!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!qualcomm.com!jafar.qualcomm.com!kbibb
From: kbibb@jafar.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature,rec.answers,news.answers
Subject: guitar tab Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) version 1.0b
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Archive-name: music/guitar-tab-faq
Last-modified: $Date: 1992/01/10 13:11:42 $
Version: $Revision: 1.0b $
Your comments, additions and fixes to this list are welcome:
please send them to Ken Bibb <ken@bnf.com>.
~Subject: Table of Contents
~From: Preface
Legend: + new, - deleted, ! changed, # unanswered
Introductory
1. What newsgroups are for guitarists?
2. Where can I get the faq?
Music Formats
3. What kinds of notation are used in alt.guitar.tab?
4. What is tab?
5. How do I learn more about tab?
6. Is there a standard ascii tab notation?
7. How do I make tab easier to enter?
Tab Sources
8. Where do I find the tab for this song?
9. How do I submit tab to the tab server?
10. Who maintains the tab server?
11. What magazines use tab?
12. What books use tab?
13. Which of these books is recommended for a beginner?
14. Which of these books is recommended for an advanced player?
Lyrics Sources
15. Where do I find the lyrics for this song?
16. How do I submit lyrics to the lyric server?
17. Who maintains the lyric server?
Music Software
18. What kinds of music software are out there?
19. What programs are relevant to alt.guitar.tab readers?
Getting Files
20. What is ftp?
21. How do I use ftp to get a file?
22. What do I do if I don't have ftp?
23. What is archie?
24. How do I use archie?
Further Information
25. What is a mailing list?
26. How do I subscribe to a mailing list?
27. What other newsgroups/mailing lists would I be interested in?
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~Subject: + What newsgroups are for guitarists?
~From: Intro-1
The main newsgroups are:
rec.music.makers.guitars general guitar topics
rec.music.makers.bass those long guitars with thick strings
rec.music.makers.guitars.tab guitar tab/lyrics/etc
rec.music.makers for music perform
rec.music.compose for music writers
Two other newsgroups, alt.guitar and alt.guitar.tab are being phased
out in preference to the two rmm.guitars groups.
There are a number of other groups that might be of interest: a few
of them will be listed in Question 21.
~Subject: + Where can I get the faq?
~From: Intro-2
The easiest place to get it is from alt.guitar.tab. It will be posted
erratically until the bugs are worked out of it, at which point it will
be autoposted monthly. Once it goes monthly, it will also be posted
to news.answers (the usenet faq repository).
If you want to anonymous ftp a copy, it will be kept at ftp.nevada.edu.
As a matter of last resort, you can email the Keeper of the FAQ (tm) at:
ken@bnf.com
~Subject: + What kinds of notation are used in alt.guitar.tab?
~From: Format-3
The preferred format is (can you guess it?) tablature (otherwise known
as tab). Other formats are also found here including chord, and chord
program format (a deviant PostScript format).
~Subject: + What is tab?
~From: Format-4
From meem@gnu.ai.mit.edu:
Tab is short for tablature. It's a different way of reading music
than you may be used to: instead of each bar representing a certain
note, they each represent a string. They are arranged so that the
high E is represented by the top line and low E is represented by
the lowest bar. If the strings use an unconventional tuning, the
tuning will usually be shown next to the lines so you can see how
each line should be tuned.
Unlike conventional written music, time values are very rarely
shown in the tab. Instead, an estimate of how long it is between
every plucked note (which is represented by the distance between the
numbers in the tab) is commonly shown to roughly estimate timing.
Instead of representing the time of each note on the staff, a
number representing the fret on that string is shown. So, for
example:
e---------------------- ----------------------- ---0------------------
B---7------------------ ---13------------------ ---1------2-----------
G---------------------- ---13------------------ ---0--------4---------
D---------------------- ----------------------- ---2-------------2----
A---------------------- ----------------------- ---3------------------
E---------------------- ----------------------- ---0------------------
Play a note of the 7th Play the thirteenth fret Play a C chord, then
fret of the 2nd (B) on the second and third wait, play the 2nd fret
string. strings at the same time on the B string quickly
followed by the 4th fret
on the 3rd string, then
wait and play the 2nd fret
on the fourth string.
There are many other guitar techniques we all know and love.
Usually these are explained by the author of the tablature, but
here are some common ones:
----7/9------- ----7^9r7------ ----7h9p7-------
Slide from 7th Bend from the From the 7th fret,
to 9th frets. 7th up to a 9, hammer on to the 9th,
then release then pull off to the
back to the 7th 7th.
Of course there are tons of other techniques like tapping and pick
sliding and whammy bar stuff, but all of that has not been
standardized in compu-tab, magazines, or books yet (though they
are standardized within each magazine or book, of course).
[robc@Newbridge.COM is working on a standard for ascii-tab.]
~Subject: + How do I learn more about tab?
~From: Format-5
There are a number of places to go for more info on tab. The easiest
(from an Internet point-of-view) source is
ftp.nevada.edu:/pub/guitar/WHAT.IS.TAB a file that you can
get off of ftp.nevada.edu via anonymous ftp. The various guitar magazines
also usually have a page that describes tab (along with an occasional
article).
~Subject: + Is there a standard ascii tab notation?
~From: Format-6
There is a standard being worked on right now by robc@Newbridge.COM which
should be posted sometime soon. It describes what tab is, and how to
represent those guitar thangs that make traditional notation painful.
~Subject: + How do I make tab easier to enter?
~From: Format-7
Anyone? Anyone? I personally use vi, I've heard of people using emacs,
but there might be some custom programs out there...
jamesb@nevada.edu adds: "I use emacs. It DOES get a lot easier with
practice."
~Subject: + Where do I find the tab for this song?
~From: Source-8
The Internet guitar tab anonymous ftp site is ftp.nevada.edu (this is where
you check *first* when you want some tab). If you can't find the tab here,
post a message which has a subject in the following format:
Subject REQUEST: Eagles "Life in the Fast Lane"
The word "REQUEST" makes it easy for others to see that you're requesting
a tab file, and by including the title of the song on the subject line,
you make it easier for others who are interested in the same song to see
if the tab gets posted.
If you *have* the song being requested, change the REQUEST to TAB when
you *followup* the article.
~Subject: + 13. How do I submit tab to the tab server?
~From: Source-9
You can submit tab for the tab server by either posting it to
alt.guitar.tab (please start the subject line with "TAB:") or by
sending the tab to jamesb@nevada.edu. Please include at *least*
the following information:
the name of the file that you left in the incoming directory
what artist recorded the song
the name of the song
what format the file is in (tab, chord, chordpro, etc)
~Subject: + 14. Who maintains the tab server?
~From: Source-10
James Bender (jamesb@nevada.edu) is the maintainer of the guitar tab
ftp site.
~Subject: + What magazines use tab?
~From: Source-11
Most guitar magazines include tab. Among those that I have are:
Guitar For the Practicing Musician
Guitar Player
Guitar School
Guitar World
Young Guitar (Japanese)
~Subject: + What books use tab?
~From: Source-12
many, check a music store
~Subject: + Which of these books is recommended for a beginner?
~From: Source-13
jamesb@nevada.edu suggests: '"The Guitar Handbook" by Ralph Denyer. It
is published by Knopf. When I used to give lessons, I took stuff straight
out of the book.'
~Subject: + Which of these books is recommended for an advanced player?
~From: Source-14
jamesb@nevada.edu suggests: '"The Jazz Language" by Dan Haerle. Published
by studio. This is a popular book, and should be easy to find. Don't let
the title scare you, it doesn't just teach jazz, it teaches theory. A very
good source.'
~Subject: + Where do I find the lyrics for this song?
~From: Lyrics-15
The easiest place to look is in the CD jacket to the album. Most albums
come with lyrics. If that doesn't work (for whatever reason), you can
find lyrics through fan clubs, rock magazines, guitar magazines, and
by listening carefully to the song.
Some argue that the easiest way to get lyrics is off of the net. Before
you post to the net, check the Internet anonymous ftp lyric site,
ftp.uwp.edu (which has lyrics to hundreds of songs). These lyrics are
submitted by fans who occasionally mistype the lyrics, so caution should
be used. If you *don't* check here first, expect flames.
An explanation of how to use ftp is included below (Files-15).
~Subject: + How do I submit lyrics to the lyric server?
~From: Lyrics-16
You can submit lyrics to the lyrics server by either ftp (put the new lyrics
into the /pub/incoming directory) or by emailing the lyrics to the lyric
server maintainer.
If you leave a file at ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/incoming, please email Dave Datta
(datta@cs.uwp.edu) and tell him the following information:
the name of the file that you left in the incoming directory
the artist
the title of the song/album
He will put the song in a directory based on artist, so it's important that
you use the correct name of the band.
~Subject: + Who maintains the lyric server?
~From: Lyrics-17
At this time Dave Datta (datta@cs.uwp.edu) is the maintainer of the lyric
server.
~Subject: + 18. What kinds of music software are out there?
~From: Software-18
There are all kinds of programs out there, from programs that will
play sounds out of a computer's speaker, to software that will let
you typeset your latest masterwork.
Some of the related groups (comp.music, rec.music.makers) talk
extensively about various kinds of music software.
~Subject: + 19. What programs are relevant to alt.guitar.tab readers?
~From: Software-19
Depends on what you're trying to do. Some noteworthy programs include:
MusicTeX highly capable formatting language for music
chord analyze chords
chordpro displays lyrics with chord in PostScript
csound music generation from MIT (?)
guitare analyze chords, scales, transpositions
mixview highly recommended music generation
songwriter write and print sheet music
sox sound file conversion utility. must-have.
~Subject: + What is ftp?
~From: Files-20
ftp = file transfer protocol. it's a way of getting files across the
Internet. This is only available if your site has a "full connect" to
the Internet. Though most universities are directly connected, many
sites have restrictions on ftp (because the system administrators don't
think you're mature enough to handle it ;) ).
Try using it, if it doesn't work you can always use the ftpmail interface
(which works if you have email capabilities).
~Subject: + How do I use ftp to get a file?
~From: Files-21
*include the ftp.nevada.edu script that was sent*
~Subject: + What do I do if I don't have ftp?
~From: Files-22
If you don't have a direct connect, you can still ftp files (though
you might have to wait overnight) by using ftpmail. To find out more
about ftpmail, email ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com with a subject line of
help as shown in the following example:
Mail -s "help" ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
~Subject: + What is archie?
~From: Files-23
a program that helps you find files on the net. There are a number of
interfaces:
if you have a full connect to the Internet:
telnet *archie-site*
xarchie
if you don't have a full connect to the Internet:
mail *archie-email*
(Though I have a full connect, I prefer the email method (call me weird).)
Some values for *archie-site*:
archie.mcgill.ca
archie.unl.edu
Some values for *archie-email*:
archie@unl.edu
archie@mcgill.ca
If you've never used archie, email (or telnet or whatever) with a subject
of help (if you're directly connecting, type help at the prompt). A list
of the other archie sites will be listed along with instructions on how to
use archie.
~Subject: + How do I use archie?
~From: Files-24
Instructions on using archie are available by sending mail to archie@unl.edu
with a subject of help. For example:
% Mail -s "help" archie@unl.edu
FURTHER INFORMATION
~Subject: + What is a mailing list?
~From: Info-25
A mailing list is like a newsgroup except it gets mailed to you. There
are usually two addresses: an administrative address and a reflector
address. Things that are sent to the reflector get mailed out to all
of the people who are subscribed to the mailing list. Things that are
send to the administrative address only go to the administrator.
Mailing lists are good if the subject is "small": like Bauhaus, IQ,
or some other music group. If the subject is "large" (Progressive
Rock, for example), it's usually better to have a newsgroup.
If, after subscribing to a mail list, you find that your mailbox
is overflowing with messages, there are a couple of things you can do.
1) see if the list is available in "digest" format. This will
reduce the amount of incoming mail to one large message each
day.
2) get a mailer like elm that has a method of pre-sorting your
mail and have it put the mail for the mailing list into a
special mail "folder".
3) unsubscribe from the group.
~Subject: + How do I subscribe to a mailing list?
~From: Info-26
Like I mentioned in the previous question, there are usually two
addresses: an administrative address and a reflector address. If
you want to subscribe to the newsgroup send it to the administrative
address. People who send subscription requests to the reflector address
look very foolish by cluttering up hundreds of mailboxes around the
world with their request.
** DON'T BE A BOZO: USE THE ADMINISTRATIVE ADDRESS **
For example, if there was a Hanoi Rocks mailing list, it could be
called: mystery-city@glam.org. The administrative address will *probably*
be: mystery-city-request@glam.org. Note the addition of the -request.
If the administrator deviates from this, the list of mailing lists
(from the news.announce.newusers list, or from the list of musical lists)
will include the administrative address.
~Subject: + What other newsgroups/mailing lists would I be interested in?
~From: Info-27
The aforementioned newsgroups are a good place to start:
alt.guitar general guitar topics
alt.guitar.bass those long guitars with thick strings
alt.guitar.tab guitar tab/lyrics/etc
rec.music.makers for music perform
rec.music.compose for music writers
If you check news.announce.newusers, there is a list of mail lists
that are currently available. There are *many* mailing lists (some of
which aren't covered in the posts). These mailing lists range from
Yes and related groups to Bauhaus. And no, allgaier@bu-bio.bu.edu
does *not* like either of these groups.
CONTRIBUTORS
jamesb@nevada.edu
ken@bnf.com
meem@gnu.ai.mit.edu
obry@bellcore.com
robc@Newbridge.COM
wegeng@eso.mc.xerox.com
--
ken@bnf.com "Never meant to be the black sheep of the family"--IQ
--
Ken Bibb "Somewhere along the way
kbibb@qualcomm.com You exchanged your dreams for selfish pride
jester@crash.cts.com There was a common goal
But somehow that vision has died."
Fates Warning--"Eleventh Hour"